hello, all you damn dirty apostates!
please, allow me to join this community of diseased minds.
i have been lurking here for over 2 years and tonight i decided it's time to come out of the shadows.
I am glad you decided to put your programmed fears behind you and have decided to take control back over your own life.
So as a young man, what have you thought of GB Tight Pants Tony saying what clothes you can wear and what you can't? No bright socks. No beards. No individuality.
Welcome to this Board and to your freedom. We were all indoctrinated to be scared when we first woke up but it will pass in time.
hey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.
first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.
she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).
At meal times, do you pray or does your wife say the family meal time prayer? Does she thank Jehovah for the food, that you provided? Does she ever directly thank you for all that you do for her and your children?
Do you or your wife pray with your children before bedtime? If it is your wife, what does she teach the children to pray about? Does she say the words "We are looking forward to the end of this system of things" and also "When all of Satan's system of things will be destroyed"? Because that would mean she is teaching your children to pray for your death and all the other 7.5 billion people on this earth that can't be politely bothered reading a Watchtower magazine and going cold calling to recruit so they can count 10 hours a month on their time sheet.
If she doesn't pray at all with the children that is fantastic.
I know it is an inconvenient truth for you right now because you are young with a small family to look after and you have an unbalanced, dysfunctional wife who really doesn't understand you. I am a stranger but from what you wrote I do not believe your wife loves and cherishes you at all.
She is victimizing you.
Having a 3 yer old child in bed with it's parents must be preventing you from having intimate closeness with one another. I think your wife likes it like that. Your wife has a track record of sleeping with other men. When are you intimate when you have a 1, 3 and 6 year old if not in the marital bed at night... But not when you have a child sleeping with you. Your wife would not be the first pioneer who used her "pioneering time" to seek and entertain her lover. If you are not being intimate with her, who is?
Wake up.
i don't know if anyone has talked about this yet, forgive me if they have.
but i am just so, so sad that yet more innocent lives have been so brutally taken.
we've now had three attacks in three months and there has been countless terror attacks stopped by the police.. my jw acquaintances see these attacks as proof the end is near.
@Phoebe
Hi Phoebe. Please forgive me for not returning your PM"s. I still can read PM's but I cannot send any. Maybe Simon can check the glitch out. Also my thumbs up sign has not worked for months. Also, I am not able to start a topic. Please check it out for me please.
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May I say hello exMissionary Maurice!
So happy you saw TTATT (the truth about the truth) before it took your whole life. How have you been? Anyone else come out with you?
from a very obscure tract called "the broadcaster", july 13, 1925:.
May 21, 1925 saying man has been here for 6,000 years.
May 28, 1925 Now saying man has been here for over 6,000 years.
So it looks like it is saying that man has been on the earth for 6,000 years, and one (1) week?
Rutherford sure is full of himself, lording it over the flock. What an ego. What a narcissist. What a pain in the (where he got cancer and died).
i wasn't entirely sure what to expect when i made the decision to tell my parents how i really feel, but i was prepared for the worst, fortunately, it didn't come to that.
after i told them i didn't want to go to the meetings anymore it led to a long talk with them.
they made a number of irksome and woefully uninformed statements but at least they were not aggressive and have said that they won't force me to move out over this, though, i can tell they are hoping they can convince me to "accept the truth," as long as i still live with them.
There was a young man in my congo many years ago. He was normal and fell in love. He was an unbaptized publisher so they announced to his mother's horror that her son was no longer a JDub in good standing, since he had felt the desire, to make love to the woman that would be his wife. He got married and joined the military. He had 6 children. He has 6 grandchildren. His house is paid for. He has put money away for a good retirement. He has traveled. All six (6) of his children went to college. He enjoys sports. He still works, at a job he loves. He told me recently that his parents religion never made sense to him, so he had to let it go and get on with his life.
He has lived...
You have no idea what a wonderful gift you have given yourself by waking up early to WT lies.
You will have your whole life ahead of you without being micromanaged and controlled by JW..org.
Congratulations! Hopefully, in time, your parents will wake up too.
Hugs
i wasn't entirely sure what to expect when i made the decision to tell my parents how i really feel, but i was prepared for the worst, fortunately, it didn't come to that.
after i told them i didn't want to go to the meetings anymore it led to a long talk with them.
they made a number of irksome and woefully uninformed statements but at least they were not aggressive and have said that they won't force me to move out over this, though, i can tell they are hoping they can convince me to "accept the truth," as long as i still live with them.
I am proud of you! Wow. You stood up for yourself against your parents and their man made up religion.
That is no little fete!
cowtown ain’t.
in which i tell you about my hometown, ft. worth, texas.
question: “what do you call mexican food down in guadalajara?”.
@Jake. Wow! So through your great great grandfather you qualify to be a member of The First Families of Texas! I have never known of anyone of that Lineage. I have not personally known of any of The Three Hundred Colonists. And your great great grandfather was a Captain ( and Commandant) of the Texas Rangers. Wow! And had a successful mill. And... And... And... Wow!
Thank you so much for sharing some of your family's historical roots in Texas. Very impressive.
Do you know if the house your great great grandfather built and sold to Stephen F. Austin is still standing?
And then he managed to sire 22 children. Oh wow.
Do you know many of your cousins? At your family reunions you must have hundreds show up.
there seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.
do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.
some of the methods include:.
I had a dear friend I grew up with, leave The Lie. He was third generation Bethelite. Like wow! How could he be so theocratic and leave? He left The Lie a few years after marrying. For decades I thought he must have gotten involved in swinging, you know, sex orgies and such. It never crossed my mind that he would have left because he found out his grandfather's religion was all a con, rules and doctrines dictated by narcissistic men, lording in over the flock.
After I read CofC I looked up and found my old friends phone number and called. I said to him in all sincerity, ___, why didn't you tell me this religion was all fake? I don't think he said anything. I actually was in shock after not talking to him since 1969 at a convention. I think I said that if I had known it was all made up non sense, and he was the one that said it, and told me it was all garbage, I would have believed him, and it would have changed my whole life.
What an unintended heavy responsibility I put on his shoulders. He had no responsibility to tell me, to give me the key to unlock the JW..org prison door so I could escape. I am sorry ___ if I sounded hurt. There is no turning the clock back, should of, could of, would of. No. All of us can only go forward with the knowledge we have available to each of us now.
No. No apostate influenced me.
Too many strutting their stuff Elders, said and did too many things to me when seperating from my abusive Elder husband. Pray more. Be a better wife. Go out in service more. Read your Bible more. The final cop out, leave it in Jehovah's hands and stay together. What???
The most educated (of course, not a JDub) and highly respected man I knew had told me a few years before when I was trying to preach to him... Didn't I know about the cave drawings in France that are over 17,000 years old? Noooo. You should look it up. So I did. Oh oh. I had been trying to tell him about mankind being just over 6,000 years old... and about the creative days, (because that is what those GB high school idiots told me and being a good little zombie that learned through 5 meetings a week to parrot out, back, what was said to me... ) He, and many others, must have taken me for a bloomin' idiot too!
I would still shy away from those ones who are shouting out or picketing at District Conventions. I don't listen to... religious fanatics anymore.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/uniting-church-in-australia-apologises-to-victims/8344496.
When JW..org says they are unable to protect the abused children because of the archaic 2 person rule, any normal person can see right through this. They will see that JW..org wants to continue to hide pedophiles among their ranks. What will JW..org receive from this type of acknowledgement and publicity? Not more adherents. No one (normal) will want to join a church that actively protects pedophiles. Maybe JW..org wants to be known as the World Wide Church of Pedophiles. I am sure they have money in their pants pocket too to fleece. And JW..org is all about the money. Not integrity. Not truthfulness. You who still go, should questioningly look at the new people coming into these "sacred houses for worship". Are they there for the children or to serve JW..org? Yikes!
In the 'field' whether going door to door or 'manning' a cart, what type of person will WT publications attract? Pedophiles? Will normal understandably upset people, speak out against JW's that their religious leaders do not protect their children? Any normal person can see that JW..org stance on this is skewered. Will the back lash on this be, oh my, persecution??? Will they start receiving hateful comments from passersby? "You protect pedophiles! Shame on you!" Thus... they will receive... persecution. Possibly, maybe, that is exactly what Jw..org wants!
